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monibee
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On the increasingly rare occasions we get nice weather to bask ourselves in our suburban homes and gardens here in Redbridge, there is also the increasing guarantee that someone will light a stinking, annoying, polluting household and garden refuse bonfire! Toxic plastics, polystyrene vapours, rubber particles, hot ash drifting across to neighbouring properties, acrid poisonous smoke. Who knows what's being burnt and what those fumes can cause, afterall, no-one can control what is burnt and I imagine the people doing this haven't got a clue! And care even less!!
There is NO REASON WHATSOEVER for such an anti-social, ignorant act to happen. Get your garden refuse collected, recycle your other refuse and stop annoying your neighbours.
There are so many services and facilities available to dispose of your junk rather than making the people around you smell what you've got rid of.
This ignorant behaviour seems to have made a comeback and is just as selfish as it always was. People who are elderly, have health issues, kids playing in their gardens, people with their windows open, people drying their washing or those who just want to breath clean air where they live don't want your stinking smoke invading them! So pack it in you cavemen, take your rubbish and dispose of it in a non-toxic way - along with your couldn't careless attitudes!
Keep this borough sweet smelling - ban garden bonfires!
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You can always report said offenders to your local council, as some by-law is bound to be being broken. I wish you luck.
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In the bit of Redbridge where I live, this problem has never really gone away. The difficulty is that, because so many streets here have no rear access to the houses and gardens, you can't find out where the perpetrators are because you can't walk down a back-lane and see the bonfire/incinerator.
Here, the stench will drift over a large area but, unless your windows directly overlook the offender's garden, you can't tell where the cause lies. In the past, Mr Scribbles and I have walked around several blocks, trying to trace the source of some very nasty niffs but, as you can't narrow it down to less than a block, the Environmental Health people don't want to know.
It happens so often that I'm certain there are people around here disposing of commercial/industrial waste in this fashion - I just wish I knew WHO and WHERE! I can't imagine living next door to someone doing this and not complaining - to them and to the Council if it didn't cease.
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Exactly Scribbles! It's so frustrating and not all the smoke is visible, sometimes it's just the stench that drifts. Whether it's still or windy, it's impossible to track down. The problem is, burning rubbish on your own property is legal and as the Council's guideline states, with any individual property, the occasional incident should be tolerated. That's the bit I just don't get! Why the hell should I? It may be a one-off, but neighbouring properties get the idea it's ok, so like sheep, it sets another one going! Consequently several properties become a nuisance as they 'periodically' foul the air and there's jack anyone will do about it.
Of course, if a bonfire fanatic at the same property persists on a regular basis, there's a better chance of official intervention to stop it. This would probably be the only way of curtailing this stupid behaviour as confronting the knuckle-dragging cavemen with their lighter-fluid probably wouldn't be wise!
Thanks for your comments and thoughts folks.
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Jamlamont
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I can't see the difference between a bonfire and a barbecue myself. There's also acrid lighter fuel and fire lighters, smoke and worst of all, the overwhelming stench of people burning dead animals.
Not necessarily just animal cuts like chops and steaks but processed 'meat' which is packed with fat and also stinks to high heaven.
Has no one ever heard of HCA's? 
Don't get me wrong - I don't give a flying carpet if people want to clog their arteries up but why do I have to put up with it?
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Oh, Jamlamont, I do so agree with you. I thought I was the only person in the universe to detest barbecues.
In a residential setting they are just as much of a nuisance as bonfires and incinerators and, when I'm president of the galaxy, will be immediately consigned to Room 101 ....Oh, oh, sorry - getting carried away there!
On a strictly practical level, no barbecue enthusiast has ever been able to explain why, when there's a very nice gas cooker and a microwave and all sorts of gadgets in my kitchen, I should want to haul my food outside to the garden to get covered in foul smoke as it half-cooks - hopefully before the next rain shower. A chacun son goût and all that but E-coli has never greatly appealed to me!
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We have family in Ireland and the local law in their area dictates that bonfires can be lit on one day a year only.It's the same day for everyone.
The stuff that can be burnt is listed and it's stuff that cannot go to landfill or be recycled.
Hence it's not very much at all.
Toxic stuff...out of the question.
It applies to farmers as well.
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on Aug 20th, 2012, 10:00am, Gutsy wrote:We have family in Ireland and the local law in their area dictates that bonfires can be lit on one day a year only.It's the same day for everyone.
The stuff that can be burnt is listed and it's stuff that cannot go to landfill or be recycled.
Hence it's not very much at all.
Toxic stuff...out of the question.
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Would that be November 5th. 
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yanny
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another 9 and a bit weeks,and that will be here again!! :-O
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I came across a reference to this elsewhere recently and, IIRC, there are two dates - and no, neither of them is November 5th!
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Ah! It's a bit more complicated as it seems to depend where you live:
In Ireland, bonfires are held on the night of 31 October to celebrate Samhain (Halloween). In certain areas of Ireland, particularly in Limerick, bonfires are held on 30 April to celebrate the festival of Beltane. In the west and south of Ireland, 'Bonfire Night' is held on the night of 23 June to celebrate St John's Eve.
However, "under law it is prohibited to dispose of refuse by burning. It is also prohibited to burn in an open pile, barrel or mini incinerator in your back yard / garden."
There appears to be a clear distinction between the 'ceremonial' bonfires and the burning of refuse or waste which also extends to the dates above.
"Backyard burning of waste including bonfires is illegal under the Air Pollution Act 1987. The Air Pollution Act 1987 obliges us all not to cause or allow emissions in such a quantity, as to be a nuisance or cause air pollution. The Waste Management Act 1996 prohibits the burning of any waste type except in accordance with a permit."
All of the above refers to the Republic, by the way.
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yanny
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i wouldnt say its stupid,... but kind of weird that WHY cant all the countries have certain days of the year that are notable (like bonfire night (guy fawkes),mothers day or fathers day, to name just a couple) the same,. what is the reasoning behind having them on different dates?
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yanny
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any burning of household items in the open should be banned under a environmental act,.. after all,.. if u see some smoke and/or a funny smell coming from a neighbours garden,..... do u know what they are burning
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on Aug 21st, 2012, 10:30pm, yanny wrote:| ... WHY cant all the countries have certain days of the year that are notable (like ...guy fawkes ... the same,. what is the reasoning behind having them on different dates? |
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History not your strong point, then ...?
Of course, it could be me that's got it wrong ...
Could you let us have a list of all the other countries that celebrate Guy Fawkes - and the dates they do it, of course ...?
I wouldn't claim to be a Latin scholar - I've probably forgotten more than I ever knew, anyway - but I tried hard to get my head round your sig line - without success ...
So, I tried it out on a couple of on-line translators, both of which translated "i ad ilford, i proiecit omnia super feles, egregie die!" as ...
ilford to i, i threw them on cats, brilliant day!
... from which I assume that you aren't a cat lover ...
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